I have used quite a few cycling bags over the years. But, bags and panniers can be tricky. How well they work depends not only on the mounting system designed for the bag, but also on what kind of rack system you have, or whether you have racks at all. And, for saddlebags, the question of whether they will work for you depends a great deal upon your bike’s rear triangle geometry, as well as whether or not your are using fenders. In order to use front bags and panniers you need not only to have a front rack, fork braze-ons, and handlebar or stem mounting system, but the success of carrying a front load also hinges on whether your bike has the right front end geometry to carry a load there.
I have always had a special obsession with bike bags, which started back in my touring days when I would load up my 1976 Centurion Pro Tour and head out to explore my surroundings.
I was happy that my handlebar bag and rear panniers were purchased from REI – a consumer cooperative being somewhat radical back then (even though REI was founded decades earlier). The handlebar bag mounted with a removable rack which rested on the handlebars and stem. The lower part of the front bag was secured to the front dropouts via a stretchy cord, which as you can see in the above photo, got overstretched so that I had to tie a knot in the cord to keep tension on the bag while underway.
I liked the rear panniers, but didn’t like the front bag so much. It interfered with the beam of my battery powered head light. And, probably the Pro-Tour’s geometry was not ideal for carrying a front load. However, one nice feature was the map case on the top of the bag. In those pre-iPhone days, having my maps at the ready proved invaluable, although I will say that often my maps were totally wrong!
Eventually I stopped using front bags altogether until I began building up my 1980 Meral as a 650b Randonneur, a few years ago. Even so, I am not all that thrilled with front bags, finding them fidgety, noisy, and irritatingly intrusive on my hands. Perhaps a decaleur could solve these problems. But, for now, I only occasionally use this really nice Velo Orange front bag. I have not used low rider front panniers, but have occasionally used small panniers mounted to the front racks of various bicycles I have ridden. Mastering a front load requires a bit of saddle time.
Below is a list of some of the many cycling bags I have used over the years, as well as my comments on their utility. If you have been searching for the right bag for your bike, perhaps this highly personal list will be of use:
IMHO, Jandd is the gorilla manufacturer of cycling bags. Their bags last forever. They never wear out. They are intelligently designed and reasonably priced, given their longevity. They are not particularly pretty, but offer the best in bike bag value and utility.
Here are the Jandd bags that I have used over the last 35 years:
Grocery panniers – large, securely mounts to most racks, holds an actual grocery bag, unlike other competitors which are much smaller and less robust. I have a set of Jandd grocery bags that I purchased in the early 90’s and they are still in use.
Hurricane panniers – These are the grocery panniers on steroids. Excellent mounting, total weather protection, tons of visibility. But, there are also very heavy weighing about 2 lbs each, unladen. I use these on my Panasonic winter/errand bike. A perfect utility bag.
Jandd Trunk rack bags – I used a Jandd trunk bag for many years. It never wore out, and I finally gave it to a friend, as I don’t use trunk bags any more.
Jandd Throw-over small panniers – I am using these “small” panniers on my 1980 Meral. They are deceptive in nomenclature and appearance – I have managed to jam all kinds of stuff into these bags. Lightweight, fits any rack.
Brooks Roll Up Panniers – who can say anything bad about a Brooks bag? These are beautiful bags, with appropriately lovely packaging. They are NOT waterproof, and they do not have any attachment at the base of the bag. I am using these on my 1950 Raleigh Sports Tourist, which is perfect for what they are designed for.
Various “roller” models – Ortlieb bags are the perfect Portland commuter bag, being totally waterproof, easy to mount on any rack, and with a lot of visibility. Newer models have internal organizing pockets. These are my commuting bags of choice. I have these smaller panniers, pictured above, as well as an older set of larger panniers. The smaller model is actually able to carry quite a bit of stuff, and I have successfully loaded these panniers with way more than I would have anticipated, so I use the smaller bags pretty much all the time.
Electra Ticino Large Canvass Panniers – I hate these bags and have them sitting in my shop – awaiting some kind of disposition that I haven’t thought of yet. The bags are narrow, heavy, and feature the worst mounting system I have ever seen. After having these bags pop off the rack while riding at speed, and thankfully not crashing as a result, these bags are on my s$#t list.
Detours seatpost mount quick release bags – I own three of these bags. These are excellent bags for bikes which cannot take rear racks. However, based on a recent search it looks like these bags are no longer offered by the company. That’s too bad as I find these bags quite useful. They are not as big I would like, but can still hold enough stuff for a day’s adventure.
Sackville Bags from Rivendell For awhile I used these Sackville front and rear rack bags, which I purchased from Rivendell. The color scheme went well with my 1973 Jack Taylor Tourist. However, these bags have no internal pockets, are not expandable, and so are of very limited utility. They do have visibility, as you can see from the above photo. Because of their limitations, they are sitting in my shop now awaiting some purpose in their lives which I haven’t thought of yet.
Other Bags I Have Used:
While too numerous to list here I have tried out many different kinds of cycling bags. Trunk bags, which I used for a time, put the weight up high and also make it difficult to throw a leg over (depending on how tall your rack is). I no longer use trunk bags at all. Saddlebags often interfere with your thighs while pedaling, and can also swing from side to side while you are climbing. Mostly, I only use saddlebags on bikes that I will not ride vigorously, and where I can position the bag to sit far enough away from my legs – mostly this would be on larger bicycle frames.
For most riders, carrying weight on the rear of the bike will feel the most stable and natural, but it is is a good idea to think about your bike’s geometry and purpose before embarking on a new bag/rack experience. You can measure your bike’s angles by using an angle finder, and you can take a rudimentary trail measurement of the front fork rake by following instructions which are readily available on the internet.
I noticed that all your bags look clean and nice. Is there a way that you keep them looking that way, especially since you sometimes ride in wet weather?
Have you used the Novara brand?
I plan on turning my 26″-wheel A.T.B. into a bike capable of touring with at least rear panniers. Have you seen the RockBros rack? (I selected it because it clams to the seat stays, instead of using dropout eyelets).
p.s: I still use maps, but thanks for the heads-up on the accuracy. Are any current map brands better than others? Thanks.
Hi Paul, I occasionally clean my Ortlieb bags with a sponge and degreaser, but for my cordura and other cloth bags, they can be gently washed if needed in something like TechWash. Jandd bags are good a repelling dirt, so I have never had to wash one. My favorite racks are: vintage Blackburn, and Nitto. Surly racks are great for heavy duty touring. For an ATB touring application, I am not sure that the RockBros rack would hold enough weight safely, but haven’t ever used their racks.
I’m a bag-geek,so I LOVE this post! You have an great collection,my friend 😀
Sadly,old spinal injuries (not cycling related) prevent me from cycling now days (especially touring or “utility” cycling errands and such),but what I once enjoyed doing via pedal powered 2 wheelers,I’ve rediscovered a love for petrol powered 2 wheelers this year (now own a Shadow ACE 750,and a pair of 250cc dual sports,an old Yamaha XT and modern Kawasaki KL)…not the same,but good 😛 Anyways,still a bag-junky with those too (saddlebags on the ACE,and DIY fabbing up some racks for side boxed on the ds bikes soon 😛 )
Thanks! Your MC collection is envious. While I only ride a Vespa currently, I went through a motorcycle phase that included a number of great bikes – Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis, and Kawis. I sold my last motorcycle – a Honda Shadow Ace a few years back. I am glad you are enjoying your 2 wheelers. My motto has always been – if it has two wheels, let’s ride it!
Small world indeed…our “big bike” (I’m a small bike kinda guy,so this is the biggest we own) is a 2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750 that’s well loved 🙂 You can read about em here ( https://myblog189.wordpress.com/ ) if interested. Have a great last half of the weekend,my friend 🙂
I can see why you tried the Electra Ticino, Nola: They do look impressive, and fopr paperwork, could have really been something useful.
The Ticino bags are made from very nice materials, but the shape is ill-conceived, and the mounting system dangerous.